Science Fiction writer claims LOTR is racist for discriminating against orcs

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  1. Erestor Arcamen

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    I found this article in my News Feed and was blown away at how stupid it is, anyone else see it? I'm actually ashamed that I gave the article the time of day to even look at it.

     
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    Yeah, I saw that. His idea that orcs were "raised out of the earth" gives an indication of the depth of his knowledge about Tolkien.
     

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    Well, it seems to me to be just one more trying to make a name by attacking that which he cannot emulate.
     
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    The whole society structure that Orcs might have is based on slavery, invasion and survival of the fittest from the start, and they were captured, tortured and marred Elves to begin with. They weren't raised out the earth.

    The only trace of free will they might have left are based on selfish goals, vengeance and glee. They have a lot of hatred, but they have forgotten the cause of it, serving it instead.
     
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    A case of "any publicity is good publicity", I guess. He wrote a parody, with "Senator Bilbo" trying to keep "migrant orcs" out of the Shire. I'd take his criticisms about as seriously as I would those from the writers of Bored of the Rings.
     
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    I would take "Bored of the Rings" slightly more seriously than him. At least the Harvard Lampoon intended it to be funny.
     
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    This man doesn't know they play this at the Pony in the after hours?.

     
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    Wait, so what are we meant to do? Try to feel sorry the nassty orcsess and let them take over Middle Earth? Holy Smokes!!! Really?
     
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    Racism is one thing, constant evidence of the wrongdoing without a shadow of a doubt is another.

    Besides, they don't just kill their enemies. They hunt their enemies for dinner, like the free peoples were some kind of game to them.
     
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    Honestly most of the article from News Feed are mediocre so I'm not really surprised. Clickbait at its finest.
     
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    "The road to Hell. . ." etc. ;)
     
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    Ha! Glad I didn’t have a mouthful of tea when I clicked on that!
     
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    The Babylon Bee is a "Christian Satire" site - sort of like a Christian Onion.
     
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    Ummm...Bree, where else?
    Andy Duncan reminds me of Herschel from The Walking Dead and his barn full of zombies he wanted to redeem.
    Just as logical.