The relationship between the Mouth of Sauron and the Nazgul

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  1. CWOBrien

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    Such are the things I like to wonder about in my spare time XD

    Do you reckon their relationship was a frosty one? Would they have competed for Sauron's favour? And would the Mouth have known each Ringwraith according to his measure?
     
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    Don't think speed dating was in their future :p
     
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    Squint-eyed Southerner Skulking near Archet

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    It's an interesting question. I think it likely that the Mouth might well have competed, or tried to compete, for Sauron's favor; the impression from his description seems to indicate that: "he was more cruel than any orc". He probably betrayed many a competitor.

    But I don't imagine the Nazgul looked on it that way, as they were entirely enslaved to their rings, and thus to Sauron directly. They may in fact have taken no notice of him.
     
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    CirdanLinweilin The Wandering Wastrel

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    Which leads me to a new post idea of mine:
    *DO* the Nazgul have minds of their OWN?


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    I think so too. Also, the Mouth of Sauron was a mortal man. So even in case of competition for Sauron's favour, the Nazgul would regard him as a very temporary problem at best.

    Minds yes, but with no independence. They organized e.g. the hunt for the Ring in a reasoned way, yet in full obedience.
     
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    Squint-eyed Southerner Skulking near Archet

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    Yes, like a Mayfly -- "A trifle that Sauron fancies".

    But here's a question: We know that he considered that he was due for the command of Isengard; I wonder if he also hoped to be awarded the ring of the fallen Witch-King -- and if so, how likely would Sauron be to give it to him?
     
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    Exactly.