The "WHAT IF...?" game

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  1. Gigantor

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    Then Gollum would not have been around to "save" Frodo from claiming the Ring as his own at Mount Doom and going nuts.
     
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    The Elvish Minstrel Obssessed with Elves <3

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    What if Aragorn had never met Arwen, and instead married Eowyn?
     

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    Firawyn Verbatim et litteratim.

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    I don't think he would have married Eowyn, even if he'd never met Arwen. The connection between Eowyn and Aragorn was one in which they had a lot in common, but what they did have in common was similar insecurities and senses of duty and honor. While this could easily have made for a great friendship, it would have made them ill suited as romantic partners. A good relationship involves one person's weaknesses being the other person's strengths, and vice versa. Couples should complement each other to make up for the failings in each other, and be able to uplift each other when one or the other is struggling.

    For example: Arwen, like Aragorn, was mixed blood, and so understood Aragorn's struggles with his own origins, though where he felt he needed to hide his bloodline, she was proud of her own. Eowyn, on the other hand, felt much the same as Aragorn about her own bloodline and the duty that bound her too. She hid in the ranks of her uncle as a soldier, wanting to achieve honor in her own right, or die trying and be spared the duty of living on and ruling her people. Like Aragorn, she hid in the shadows and risked her life until such a time there was no longer shadows to hide in, at which point she met Faramir, someone who while understanding of her desire to achieve on her own merits, did embrace his own heritage in much the same way Arwen did hers.

    So, to answer the "what if", IF it had happened that way, the Kingdom of Gondor and Middle Earth would have suffered under a King who constantly second guessed himself, because the Queen was not a person who could really be uplifting to him. Just my opinion...
     
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    The Elvish Minstrel Obssessed with Elves <3

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    Wow, this is very insightful. I think you may be right. In addition, Aragorn's marriage to Arwen also restored Elvish blood to the Gondor line, so there's also that to think about...
     

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    Firawyn Verbatim et litteratim.

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    This is true. You'll realize pretty quickly as you get to know me that seldom do I not think out my answers in depth. :p

    I'm a bit of a swot like that.
     
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    The Elvish Minstrel Obssessed with Elves <3

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    Nah, deeply thought out answers make for deeper conversations. :D
     
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    hxrxy Son of Thrain, Son of Thror

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    What if Boromir didn't die? Would Sean Bean have to quit due to not dying in a film?

    I don't know, but Elrond would be happier
     
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    The Elvish Minstrel Obssessed with Elves <3

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    LOL, ain't that the truth?! I didn't even think of that. xD

    LOL
     
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    What if Suraman had been victorious at Helm's Deep ?

    I imagine that Boromir would have had a serious disagreement with Aragorn over the destiny of the ring. That opens up lots of possibilities - Aragorn being killed and Boromir taking the ring to Minas Tirith, Frodo escapes with the ring, Boromir goes with Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli to rescue Merry and Pippin, does his bit at Helm's Deep but disputes Aragorn's claim to the throne later in the story ...
     
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    I like the idea of it, but i think that maybe one of the dwarf's (maybe Thorin) could play the whole Gollum part and would die in Mount Doom. Of couse, this would mean a new king under the mountain, but that's a different story, maybe for a different What if...
     
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    I think the Ring was taken by Frodo over the River. So Boromir and Aragorn needed be troubled by its presence. However, one does wonder, what if Frodo had decided to go to Minas Tirith? That would be an interesting what if.

    I thought Turgon died when Gondolin fell, or am I thinking of someone else?
     
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    I assume Withywindle estimated that by that time Turgon could have left the Halls of Mandos and reincarnated in Aman .

    Yet the remark on the unexplained astonishing fighting skills of the eldar is truly intriguing :D