Third age army strengths

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  1. thetrapper

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    Hello,

    I am currently working on a strategy board game that takes place at the end of the third age.
    For this I need some estimated strengths of the different armies.

    I have divided the two sides into different factions, here with some estimated numbers, that aren't that useful alone for a strategy game, because one elf is significantly stronger than one badly equipped orc:

    1500 Rivendell Elves
    4000 Lorien Elves
    3000 Elves of Mirkwood
    3000 Dwarves (Erebor)
    2000 Dwarves (Iron hills)
    20000 Gondor
    13000 Rohan
    ? Eriador (Dunedain)
    4000 Dale

    15000 Saruman
    10000 Rhûn
    ? Harad
    (? Khand)
    ? Minas Morgul
    15000 Dol Guldur/Orcs of the misty mountains
    ? Main Army of Mordor

    It is really difficult to make a fair strategy game, because in reality Saurons forces outnumbered the good guys ~2:1. (Although perhaps this doesn't translate to the actual strength of the armies)

    If you have any suggestions for the strengths of the different factions, if you know the numbers of any that are still missing in this list or if you have some better numbers, I would be very glad if you can help me.

    PS. I am no Tolkien expert, but please don't say something like "You can't just say army a is "stronger" than army b, it has a lot to do with position, leadership skills, structures etc..."
    I know that, but it is a board game, I try to make it at accurate as possible while still being a fun and not too complex game.
     
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    For eriador we can't really distinguish how many Dunedin there really were except perhaps the Grey Company, which held 31 rangers and the two sons of elrond. Typically I believe this was all the men that halbarad (aragorns second in command) could muster in a quick amount of time. With the decline of the Dunedin happening and their position as sentries for the hobbits and bree as well as gurilla warfare fighters, I'd put my bet there were somewhere between 200-500 able Dunedain Warriors.

    They live a very long time too (aragorns lived I believe 210 years, but he was of royal blood which was considered lesser compared to the numemroians who lived from 500 to 300 years at their fall). However that wouldn't mean they'd be able to settle down, especially with all the dangers in their lives, their lifestyle wouldn't help increase their population.

    Sorry for the long answer but gave it best I could, sorry for any mistakes
     
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    Dear 1stvermont I really wouldn't know why you call yourself like that, because the link you provided is truly extremely interesting! Thanks for reminding that it exists! :)
     
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