Tolkien's HARD LOVES

Discussion in '"The History of Middle-earth"' started by Lhunithiliel, Sep 22, 2002.

  1. Marina Melinda Heacock

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    You know something, I've thought about this often. I guess, as a young person in high school and a middle schooler the idea of love being forbidden or harder than (honestly it should be) made it that much more exciting. The idea of a fictional world with so many rules and traditions made it seem more real to me, as a kid.

    Now I'm an adult at the age of 28 and a love that seems so hard, or forbidden actually makes it seem more fictional to me. Like Romeo and Juliet.

    But, hard loves have always been apart of the works of fiction. Whether it be Anna Kerririna and Atonement are brilliant examples of this. Where "forbidden love" are the main points. Granted, Atonement it was less forbidden had the lie had not taken over I don't think Cecelia would have been forbidden to visit Robbie in jail. And Anna Kerrinia was forbidden because of Anna's marriage, although in the very beginning it raises questions, like how come men can cheat and there seems to be no consequences? which isn't right by any means. Of course religion plays a huge role in Anna K.

    And maybe since Tolkien was an openly religious man this plays a factor. It's a way for his characters to question rules, or religion without doing anything violent or hurtful towards another being. This is always a strong, suspenseful theme in fiction though and personally I'm not shocked that Tolkien finds a fascinating love with forbidden or hard loves.

    As for the fact "it's a man's world" I do not think that was his initial intent, but mind you he was writing these histories and tales, myths and so on just as such. It's not to say his races and species wouldnt evolve from what we read, but to say these are meant to be seen as "tales of old" And to be fair, Galadriel seems immune to this notion of it being a mans world and she does go as far as being apart of the council and influencing the fate of ME.

    You're right though because she seems to be the only woman to do this.
     
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    I think part of this is "hard loves" make for interesting stories.
     

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    I believe the purpose of putting such obstacles is to prove how true the love is. I mean, love is a very easy word to throw around - when you have everything, no problems, no stress, no real hardship - even I can fall in love. However, if there are problems - real hard ones that make you choose, make you seem insane to choose, and then you make your choice and it is still unclear whether it is the right one to make or not - then that love is put to the test. Anything that passes through fire gets purified. Love is supposed to be pure. If you can stand it after enduring so many trials - then it's real.
     
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