Trying to find this LOTR map-book

Discussion in 'Research, Reference, Bibliographies' started by Darren Lewis, Apr 19, 2002.

  1. Darren Lewis

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    When I read LOTR many years ago, I also had a "guide book" to it.

    The only things I can remember about it are that it was written by a woman, and had maps on the right-hand page with text on the left-hand page.

    The maps were in black & white with the route taken drawn in red.

    The book was in "landscape" format about A4 or US legal size.

    I've been trying to think what this book was called but can't remember :(

    Anyone got any ideas?
     
  2. Thorin

    Thorin LOTR Purist to the end

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    It's called "The Journeys of Frodo". Believe it or not, I have it, but I can't remember who wrote it (Barbara -----??).

    It is a very good guide, because it zooms in on every area (chronologically throughout the book) of Frodo and the fellowship's journeys. It lays out the distances and days that this journey took through each leg...Ont he opposing page, it gives a brief summary of what occured in each section....

    It is quite a handy help when wondering just exactly where they went through Bag End, Emyn Muil, The Old Forest and Lorien....It's a must get!
     

  3. Darren Lewis

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    Yes! "Journeys of Frodo" looks like it. I've found it on Amazon

    Thank you :)
     
  4. Talierin

    Talierin Still here... sometimes

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    Another nice LOTR map book is 'The Atlas of Middle-earth' by Karen Wynn Fonstad. It does the days of the journey too, but prolly not in as much detail as the book you have. It also has maps for the Silmarillion and the Hobbit, plus battle maps, population, climate, vegetation, and all sorts of good stuff. I use it all the time.
     

  5. Darren Lewis

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    Thanks Talierin, I'll have a look at that too. Problem with looking at these books online, is that I can't flick through and read bits to get a feel of what they are like. Will have to wait until I go on my next book shopping spree.
     
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    I'd like to recommend 'The Atlas of Middle-Earth' to you too. I think it far and away the best Tolkien companion around. It's full of fantastic maps and all kinds of interesting speculations on the geography and morphology of ME. (Actually that makes it sound quite boring, but let me assure you that it's not) I think it just been re-issued in Britain - in paperback form for about £12.99 or something - so you should have no trouble finding it...
     
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    how much is this thing?: £
     
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    Atlas of Middle Earth is a great companion book!
     
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    good thread deserves a good bump :cool:
     
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    Firawyn Verbatim et litteratim.

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    Hey, thanks Firawyn!
     
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    That map is so small on my computer.....

    16 by what? :confused:

    I always thought the best one was the one Tolkien's son made & was glued to the back of the really good copies of TLOR in the old days.....

    You know, just like The Silmarillion versions.

    Having bought a $70 all in one hard cover copy of TLOR with no map attached about 5 years ago, I wonder if they simply stopped doing that.

    I KNOW I stole several right out of copies of TLOR in bookstores in the days of my wayeward youth and they're still lying around somewhere, but much taped up now & in my cellar somewhere - which looks like Bilbo's study. But they're around somewhere.

    I just bought the Fonstad's Atlas plus a LARGE 'map' of M-e in the 3rd Age in booklet form for $7.95 instead of spending the hours looking for them.

    My original copy of The Silm (somebody wooing my girlfriend at the time, wife now.gave it to her) still has the enlarged map of Beleriand attached to the back though.
    So, I got the girl, the first edition and the map. :cool:
     
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    Firawyn Verbatim et litteratim.

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    The link has the map scaled down to 34% of its original size. You're computer should show a zooming icon when you hover your mouse over the map that will blow it up to full size. It's 1916x1800 pixals, full size. If you printed it, it would probably be a good 18 inches squared. Like I said, big. Pretty too! :cool:
     
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    The links disappear as quickly as they are published, because of copyright issues I suppose. This one is live at the time of writing.
     
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    Too many colours for my personal taste. When I have a place of my own, there'll be a large black & red ink map of Beleriand in the living room !
     
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    As far as Fonstad's Atlas, yes, it contains a lot of invaluable information, but more than it's fair share of speculation too.

    For example (off the top of my head) she moves Belegost & Nogrod about 100 miles apart and flip-flops them as compared to CT's Silmarillion map without any conclusive proof that I could dig up.
     
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    Yes, there is plenty of speculation written into Fonstadt's book Atlas of Middle Earth, and some errors are blatantly prevalent, like Belegost. I could not find any reasoning for Fonstadt setting Belegost over a hundred miles south past Nogrod roughly twenty miles to the north and over a ridge from the headwaters of the River Adurant, which is the southernmost of the Seven Rivers of Ossiriand. Both versions of the Silmarillion maps clearly shows Belegost north of Nogrod and to the northeast of Mt Dolmed, and are at most 30 miles apart near the headwaters of River Ascar (the 2nd river of Seven). The two cities appear to be close to each side of the Dwarf Road pass through Ered Luin. Fonstadt's discussion on Ered Luin pertained more about the "folded" geology, which appears somewhat more promenent to the north of the Dwarf cities than to the south on the Silmarillion maps. It appears that Fonstadt took this and ran with it in a bit of fan fiction, making the whole range a dual range, moving Belegost way south, and putting a dwarf road through the middle of the range between the two cities.

    That said, I find Karen Wynn Fonstadt's Atlas of Middle Earth quite a useful resource, along with Journeys of Frodo by Barbara Stratchy, and Complete Guide to Middle Earth by Robert Forster
     

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