Why did Saruman think he would get away with it?

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    Morgoth was causing trouble in the First age, eventually the Valar came over and took care of him. Then Sauron did the same thing, so the Valar sent over 5 Maiar, including Saruman himself, to deal with it. So even if Saruman managed to get the One Ring, wouldn't he think they would just send somebody even more powerful to stop him?
     
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    Pretty much every criminal thinks they can get away with their crime.
     

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    In the real world, criminals really can get away with it, because the police can't solve everything.

    Unfinished Tales mentions something in the Istari section about the 5 wizards remembering Valinor only as a dream or vision, so I'm wondering if Saruman even remembered he's a Maia. That would be the only reason he'd think the Valar wouldn't come knocking on his door if he did conquer Middle Earth.
     
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    To me, it appears that he is arrogant and probably thinks the Valar have given up on Middle-Earth. He witnessed first-hand how the Valar withdrew from Middle-Earth and bent the road to Valinor.
     

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    Pride, arrogance and dominance over others are some of the feelings which would have forced Saruman to take It. He started believing that a being with his power can also amend the world by ruling over men and elves, he felt too confident of his power an thus he fell, while Gandalf took the hard way.
    The Istari were forbidden to use their powers unless great need arose but Saruman did not obey the command in the later years and his will to dominate took the manifestation of conquering Isildur's Bane.
     

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