Would Sauron have fallen at any point if the Ring was destroyed?

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  1. BalrogRingDestroyer

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    We know for certain that he'd have fallen AFTER his defeat at the Battle of the Last Alliance (can't recall the name), as they said Isildur could have and should have destroyed the Ring right then.

    But would Sauron have fallen even back in the Second Age if, by some chance, the Numenoreans hadn't been so corrupted, and, when they'd captured Sauron, they'd found his Ring and destroyed it, would it have killed him then back when he had a fair form, or was it only after he lost his first body that he was destroyable by the destruction of the Ring?

    Or, more still, was he only destroyable after being "destroyed" by the Last Alliance?
     
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    I see no reason why it wouldn't be so in the Second Age, ever since the One Ring was made. The whole point is hat Sauron had placed so much of his own power into the Ring, that the destruction of the Ring would mean Sauron's undoing too:

    Now the Elves made many rings; but secretly Sauron made One Ring to rule all the others, and their power was bound up with it, to be subject wholly to it and to last only so long as it too should last. And much of the strength and will of Sauron passed into that One Ring; for the power of the Elven-rings was very great, and that which should govern them must be a thing of surpassing potency.

    When King Tar-Calion of Númenor took him as a hostage, I assume that the king ignored the existence of the Ring and that Sauron left it in Mordor. That would explain why the question how to destroy the Ring did not come up any earlier in the Second Age.
     
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    Unlikely. I believe it to be the consequence of the Fall of Numenor - notice that Tolkien points out how Sauron's body was destroyed in the Fall and he was never able to take on a fair form again. In my view, Sauron had lost his body, and possibly a portion of his power inherent in it, in the Sinking of Numenor. And whether he had retained portion of power that was inherent to his body or not, after the Fall it was the Ring that was his connection to the material world. Now, he apparently did reconstruct his body - Gollum say that he has "only nine fingers on his hand" - but that would have been done through the Ring.