Bush

[ms Greenleaf]

Before you vote I ask that you read the thread George Bush and the Great American electorate swindle please do not respond just votete thanks

[Ciryaher]

I'm posting because the first option should be: "For Bush and our war on terrorism"

[ms Greenleaf]

Why OUR not everyone is an american

[Galdor]

Then change it to "For Bush and America's war on terrorism."
I get unterly sick of people calling it "Bush's" war. If you'd ever take a look at satistics you'd see that like 70% of Americans are for the war. Are Bush's aproveal ratings are through the roof! This is not Bush's war, it is America's war, and I ask that the poll be changed to represent that.

[ms Greenleaf]

Well do not ask me to do that...I cannot change a pole...

[Ciryaher]

It's our war because this is the whole civilized world acting as a united body to seek out and destroy terrorist organizations. If you aren't for elimination terrorists, then you're for letting the terrorists do as they wish.

[faila]

Ciryaher made a good point.

War is not bad. War can be good. Through this war we can make more live than possibly would have, even if we have to kill.

[Hadhafang]

War is not bad. War can be good. Through this war we can make more live than possibly would have, even if we have to kill.

That smacks of Machiavelli.

[Morgoth]

I'm going to post because I have just realised something to do with terrorism. If you asked pretty much anyone in the western world what the most devestating act of terrorism ever was, they'd say September 11th. Not me. Try Hiroshima or Dresden. Completely strategically useless cities, filled with civilians, bombed to the ground. But that's just part of war, isn't it? Well, the rules of engagement that us Brits and Americans say we play by state that civilians should not be attacked. However, in the aforementioned attacks, the majority of the casualties were civilian.

[Bombadillo]

well I saw a bit of information about Iraq and Saddam Hussain....
(discovery) I got sick... this wasnt a documentary it was pure war propaganda!!! WE the americans are so good and strong and Saddam is the evelist of evil...
I can understand that people got convinced on that sort of television, I hope that there are also some non colored documentaries on the TV about Iraq...

[ms Greenleaf]

Okay from now on people just write in hear obviously everyone has to put in there two cents so whatever.

I agree with Bombadillo.

The Facts are as Follows

Sadam Hussuin MAY have weapons of mass destruction

Hussain is insane...I think we all agree on that one.

The USA has Weapons of Mass Destruction and is using them against Hussain

The USA is killing Civilians

There are oil mines

Lastly Faila I am afraid that I disagree with you on all respects concerning the following quotes

1 "people are not born equal"

2 "War is not bad"
If anyone wants to put that sort of opinion on this thread could they please aknowledge that either it is an opinion or give reasons for it being right so that it is not taken the wrong way for ex using Faila's quote. If HE/SHE had written that war is good in that it can stimulate an economy then it is more acceptable. Thank you

[Gandalf White]

Sadam Hussuin MAY have weapons of mass destruction

Does, he threatens to use them on us.

Hussain is insane...I think we all agree on that one.

Correct

The USA has Weapons of Mass Destruction and is using them against Hussain

Yes, the USA, Russia, China, etc. have weapons of mass destruction. I was quite unaware of the fact that we are using them against Saddam. Silly me! Anyway, there hasn't been any talk of using WoMD against him, as it would cause too many civilian casualties. (although he plans on using them against us, despite his own civilians)

The USA is killing Civilians

See above statement. And please remember, Saddam tests his weapons on his people. It's a lose-lose situation for them, although it would get better if we took over.

There are oil mines

Very good! Did you also know that Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have oil mines. (And keep an eye out, Israel's gonna hit oil sometime, and then watch out)

Lastly Faila I am afraid that I disagree with you on all respects concerning the following quotes

Wow, I actually agree with everything you said there! Yay!

[Gandalf White]

If you asked pretty much anyone in the western world what the most devestating act of terrorism ever was, they'd say September 11th. Not me. Try Hiroshima or Dresden. Completely strategically useless cities, filled with civilians, bombed to the ground. But that's just part of war, isn't it?

Yes, sadly, it is part of war. Actually, it was another lose-lose situation. Either they got bombed (to end the war) or they had to fight against the Americans. Remember, the Japanese were sending young boys and old men out to battle armed with practically nothing. Oh, boy, wouldn't you have had a fit if America had killed them!

[Thorin]

Don't get me wrong. I think Bush did a great job in handling post 9/11 and his war against Al-Qaida. However, I think he is going in the wrong direction very rabidly (cool play on a pun ), over the whole Iraq thing.

Iraq is a country that must use trade and the economics of other countries to survive. Saddam is not stupid enough to bring the entire free world down on him and Iraq should he attack the US with WoMD. As crazy as you folks think he is, he is not going to commit political suicide for he and his people. The ONLY danger he will be is if he decides to sell some weapons to the highest Islamic terrorist bidder.

The real threat are those fanatics who don't care about countries, or economics, or free trade. They belong to no country but use religious ideology to further their carnage and destruction. They are Al-Qaida and other terrorist groups just like them. The US was on the right track in going after them. And while they are uselessly sparring with Saddam, AQ will be slipping in the back door once again to reek havoc amongst innocent people. And I ask again. WHEN another 9/11 (or worse) attack occurs, which Islamic country will the US blame then?

Focus on the REAL terrorists who are doing something.

[ms Greenleaf]

He THREATENS to use them does not mean he has them yet still puts the world in danger...I agree.

Second point...I beleive though I may be wrong that the USA did use those weapons on Afghanistan and so they will PROBABLY use them again.

third point... who Told you he uses them on his people are you positive this is a completely non-bias informant.?

lastly... Hussain who I already mentioned is insane is moving his people out of the oil mines so he can blow them up so the USA will not get them. , THIS IS HORRIBLE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT so I think that the UN and hussain should find some way around this stupid argument. In my opinion there is never a need for war. Non-violence is only the second stupidist reaction, violence being the first. of course that is all my opinion and not really important to the argument.