But how do you know orcs are not immortal? Can you cite any orc in Tolkien's work who died of old age? All that I can think of met their ends violently.
Elves may turn into Orcs, and if this required the special perversive malice of Morgoth,
I don't think it gave life to the Orcs, it only ruined them and twisted them.' In the legends of the Elder Days it is suggested that the Diabolus subjugated and corrupted some of the earliest Elves, before they had ever heard of the 'gods', let alone of God.
, I have represented at least the Orcs as pre-existing real beings on whom the Dark Lord has exerted the fullness of his power in remodelling and corrupting them, not making them.
Yet this is held true by the wise of Eressëa, that all those of the Quendi who came into the hands of Melkor, ere Utumno was broken, were put there in prison, and by slow arts of cruelty were corrupted and enslaved; and thus did Melkor breed the hideous race of the Orcs in envy and mockery of the Elves, of whom they were afterwards the bitterest foes. For the Orcs had life and multiplied after the manner of the Children of Ilúvatar; and naught that had life of its own, nor the semblance of life, could ever Melkor make since his rebellion in the Ainulindalë before the Beginning: so say the wise.
sorry Gimli son of Gloin but the orcs are not Sauron's elf version but Melkor's elf version, if we take the orcs theory from the silmarilion... but this is a very good thread!!! orcs inmortal!! mmm if they were elves then maybe they can be inmortal but if we take the thoery that were breed from man thn they are not, but we can have a conflict because orcs were in ME before the Men, so can they be men? well I think we are discussion something that Proffesor Tolkien didnt finished....