- Mar 8, 2002
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In one of his letters, Tolkien says that Bilbo is being taken by Gandalf so Gandalf will be able to speak for him when they arrive in the West. I would presume that Gandalf would also then be able to intercede on Sam's behave (as Sam wa a Ringbearer) when Sam arrives and similarly for Gimli as a member of the Fellowship when Gimli arrives.I do have another question connected with this: Arwen 'gives' Frodo leave to go to the West in her place (when Frodo leaves Minas Tirith), but Sam (nor Bilbo and Gimli for that matter) doesn't get any such permission and still goes to the Sea. What then is the point of Arwen giving this to Frodo, if apparently it is possible to go there without permission?
Originally posted by Ståle
Gimlis friendship with Legolas(and Galadriel, to a lesser degree) was probably the deciding reasons. But also remember at the time Legolas and Gimli went over the sea, Aragorn had just passed away(whereas Merry and Pippin parked their slippers about 80 years earlier). Most probably Gimli went because he didn't want to die in Middle-Earth alone.