- Nov 28, 2004
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I last posted here on Friday 10 Jan. I return from an absence of five days and find an almost theological discussion has taken place, more than doubling the number of pages of this thread. "When the mouse is away the cats will play?" As per my memory that saying was different in details ...My short-nick is Ando "gate", also the name of tengwa number 5.
I was going to reply to Galin, but his post's dissappeared.
I don't think my PM's onBTW, Galin, I was going to PM you, but I'm blocked. Was it something I said?
Erm ...Lifted from another thread, Gando noted: "At that time JRRT was 73, and had most likely given up on managing to get The Sil published in his lifetime."
Hmm. Why do you think/say/write so?
Okay . . . but here I would also point to the flurry of writing after Tolkien wrote this conversation, when Waldman showed interest in publishing The Lord of the Rings and The Silmarillion. In my opinion, shirly at this point, in the early 1950s, JRRT had not only not given up, but was inspired and heartened to get a version of QS in print.Gando replied: The much longer part after "Bu-hut" in that post listed reasons why JRRT might have felt a bit overwhelmed at the prospect of getting the Sil in order even at the time he wrote the original conversation, in the first edition, between Bilbo and Frodo at Rivendell, well over a decade earlier.
By 1965, when he made the revisions for the second edition, he had already suffered countless interruptions to what was his supposed aim to bring the "work of his heart" to a publishable form, that revision necessitated by the Ace books pirate paperback edition (and some egregious defects of US copyright law of the time) only having been the last to date.
Well, yes … but JRRT had an endless track record of not getting things finished.
Hmmyes - but didn't JRRT at one point mention (perhaps in "Letters") that he envisaged both LoTR and Sil to be of about equal length? Both of my Sils are just over 360 pages long, with index, appendices and maps about 440. Granted, JRRT himself would have been able to select with more confidence what he would have wanted to include, where Christopher was forced to do a good deal of guesswork. But to get a version of the Sil three times the length of what Christopher ended up publishing …Anyway, and as it's easy to ask . . . I'll ask it.
What if no appendices had been planned and the Waldman deal had panned out?