Actually, that is another name for Lorien. Lorien is the place where Irmo dwelt, and he was often called by that name.Originally posted by Ulairi
Oh and by the way UngattTrunn475, you forgot Irmo, the Vala of visions and dreams. Just thought I'd clear that one up!!
Yes... I noticed that none of the female Vala really DO anything. I mean Aule is responsible for the Earth and Manwe the Air and Ulmo the Sea. Now... let's see.... hmmm Who was it that made the Two Trees? Who was it that made the kelvar and olvar? And who actually came up with the idea of a protector of the olvar that resulted in the Ents? By the way, who created the stars and the heavens? Well, I'll be. I guess a feminine touch was required after all!Originally posted by Varda
Actually, that is another name for Lorien. Lorien is the place where Irmo dwelt, and he was often called by that name.
I doubt anyone cares, but there are more Vala. Nienna: Este's sister and the vala of mourning; Vaire, Mandos' wife and the Weaver; Vana, Orome's spouse, the "everyoung"; and Nessa, Tulkas' wife and the vala of deer and dancing.
Does anyone else notice that Tolkien only recognizes these valar as being the wives of the male valar? It just reflects the male chauvanism of Tolkien's time.
Melkor isn't a Valar.Originally posted by Bucky
I love (is that the right way to put it?) when he tells Hurin "You have dared to mock Melkor, master of the fates of Arda."
Very cool & self assured in his pride.
Now, if it's a matter of a 'good guy', Ulmo's by far the coolest, like when he rises out of the sea to great Tour.
Or, the neat prophetic words he sends, like to Nargothrond via Gelmir & the other Elf: "Cast the Stones of your pride into the river so the creeping evil will not find the gate."
To Turgon: "Love not overmuch the work of thy hands & remember the true hope of the Noldor lieth in the West & comes from the sea."
Yes, but being someone's wife is not a personality traitOriginally posted by Bucky
The book was published in 1977.
Tolkien was changing it up to his death in 1973.
The PC's were well on their way to brainwashing society, or calling everyone with an opinion different from their 'tolerance' a bigot by then....
Here's another surprise for you:
Men & women are not equal, they are DIFFERENT. Each person has their own different gifts, yet certain traits are more common among women or men.
Tolkien plainly gives each Vala 'personality' & 'traits' leaning towards the femanine & masculine.